Usually the Hindu avatar kills the demon no. The killing is performed with much caution, so that the promises made by the god Brahma should not be broken. However, due to reincarnation this "killing" is not of much effect, being only a limited solution to the problem of evil. On the other hand, in Christianity, Jesus Christ didn't literally kill Satan. Following the sacrificial system of the Old Testament, Jesus let himself be crucified for our sake. This was the "gift of God" Romans 6,23 as ransom for our sins, a chance offered to us to be set free from the power of Satan and sin.
According to the Bible, the final destruction of demons' power will only occur at the judgment day Revelation 20, An interesting episode is the conflict between two avatars of the Treta Yuga Parasurama and Ramachandra. How can this be? How could two incarnations of the same god wrestle with one another?
Isn't each avatar under divine control? Why didn't the first Rama leave in time? Or why couldn't he solve the problem for which the next avatar came, if he was present in the world? On the other hand, how could gods cooperate with demons at the time of the second avatar's Kurma coming? How is it possible to become allies and for both to be threatened by the absence of amrita? This means that both gods and demons use the same source of power. Jesus was a historical figure who was born, lived and died nearly 2, years ago. If his life were not a unique historical event, his whole teaching would be absurd.
Comparative Religion - The divine incarnation in Hinduism and Christianity
If we take his claims, miracles, passion and resurrection out of history, Christianity is left without substance. On the other hand, Hinduism is not concerned with historicity, so it can accept any tales of the repeated divine incarnation. The spiritual message of the avatars is the only element that matters, not their historicity. From this perspective, Hindus accept Jesus Christ as an avatar of the Western world with a powerful message, but as being nothing more than any other avatar.
On the one hand, Hinduism is syncretistic, including even Buddha among the avatars, the one who rejected the basic tenets of Hinduism. On the other hand, Christianity is very exclusivistic when it comes to characterizing the descent of the divine into human form. Therefore Jesus Christ cannot be just another avatar, a mere variant of an eternal myth. This would deprive him of his true identity. His passion, death on the cross and resurrection give him a totally different portrait from that of the Hindu avatars.
It examines the evidences for claiming that the Resurrection of Christ is a myth patterned after the prototypes of dying and rising fertility gods. How did the demons attain power over the gods? Who did the divine incarnation came to save, gods or humans? How does the divine incarnation save? The Vedas were stolen from Brahma by a demon, so the gods sent a flood on the earth to drown him and thus recover the holy scriptures. Vishnu took the form of a fish, predicted the coming deluge to the saint Manu and saved him together with his family by leading his ship to safety.
During the deluge that destroyed the world the gods lost the cream of the milk ocean amrita , by which they renewed their youthfulness and avoided death. Gods and demons together set about producing amrita by churning the ocean of milk, using a mountain as churning stick and the incarnation of Vishnu as a tortoise for the pivot on which to rest it. Their action was successful and the amrita recovered. Brahma was forced to grant the boon of immortality to a demon that had performed austerities.
Under the cover of this boon, the demon persecuted both men and gods, stole the Vedas from Brahma and dragged the earth under the ocean, down to his dark abode. However, the demon forgot to mention the boar in his list of gods, men and animals to which he could be invulnerable, so Vishnu took the form of a huge boar, descended into the ocean, killed the demon with his tusks, recovered the Vedas and released the earth.
A demon had obtained the boon of invulnerability through asceticism from the attacks of men, beasts and gods. He had the assurance from Brahma that he could not be killed either day or night, inside or outside his house. This demon grew very powerful, forbade the worship of all gods and substituted it with worship for himself. Vishnu took the form of half-man, half-lion neither man nor beast and tore the demon into pieces in the evening neither in the day nor in the night in the doorway of his palace neither inside nor outside it.
The king Bali had gained too much power by his sacrifices, so the gods were in danger of losing their heavenly position to him. Therefore Vishnu was incarnated as a dwarf and asked the king for the gift of three paces of land. Once they were accepted, the dwarf suddenly grew to an enormous size and covered all the earth and the heavens by his paces and Bali was left to dwell in hell. The warrior caste kshatriya was exercising tyranny over all men, especially over the Brahmins, so the priestly caste was endangered.
Vishnu came to earth as Parasurama and exterminated the whole kshatriya caste with his ax. While he was still on earth, the next avatar Ramachandra came and the two had to struggle. Ramachandra defeated Parasurama in a trial of strength and broke his bow. Both the Ramayana and the Mahabharata recollect this episode.
Incarnation in Hinduism and Christianity
In the Mahabharata Parasurama is knocked senseless by Ramachandra. The demon Ravana had practiced austerities in order to propitiate Brahma, who had granted him immunity from being killed by gods, gandharvas and demons. Under this protection, Ravana persecuted gods and men. Vishnu took the human form of prince Rama, for Ravana was too proud to ask for immunity from men. Many adventures followed in Rama's trip to save his wife Sita, who was kidnapped by the demon and taken to the Lanka Island. Rama raised an army of monkeys and bears led by the monkey-god Hanuman and a great battle was fought in front of the gates of the city.
Rama used a magic weapon infused by the power of many gods, killed Ravana and rescued his wife. The objective of Vishnu's incarnation as Krishna was to kill the demon Kamsa, who had become a tyrannical king. He killed children and banned the worship of Vishnu. Krishna's mission had three phases: childhood, youth and middle age.
During childhood he performed many feats of strength, killing all demons sent against him by Kamsa. In his youth, Krishna had many amorous adventures with married cowgirls. At last, in his middle-age, he killed Kamsa and took part in the Bharata war the most famous episode is the one recollected in the Bhagavad Gita. His mission accomplished, Krishna retreated into the forest in meditation. A hunter mistook his foot for a deer and shot it, thus piercing Krishna's one vulnerable spot and mortally wounding him.
The demons had stolen the sacrificial potions of the gods and performed asceticism, so the gods could not conquer them. Vishnu incarnated as a man of delusion in order to propagate false ideas and lead them astray from their old faith. Buddha preached that there is no creator, that the three major gods Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva were just ordinary mortals, that there is no dharma , that death is total annihilation, there is no heaven or hell and sacrifices are of no value.
Obviously, Buddha as avatar of Vishnu has no historical foundation. He was a kind of devil's advocate who managed to weaken the opponents of the gods. The demons became Buddhists, abandoned the Vedas and consequently were killed by the gods. This story was first presented in the Vishnu Purana 5th century AD and is obviously an attempt to subordinate Buddhism to Hinduism. The last avatar, who is still to come, puts an end to the degenerated earth, accomplishing the final destruction of the wicked and preparing the way for the renewal of creation and the resurgence of virtue in the next mahayuga.
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This I learned on the History channel. The way I figure it is that the devil knows scripture better than any of us and so he put the myths into place in other cultures to try and deceive the elect.
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Hmm… well first off, the tradition of incarnation in Western religious myths is extremely well established historically. That being said, so what? If one accepts an historical reality of the Incarnation of Christ, how is that compromised by an ancient myth or two? This suggests that if a modern, real and existing person quotes a fictional Shakespearean character that somehow it calls into question the historical reality of the person reading the play.
It seems like a silly argument to me. Bill Moyers made this popular. It seems if they can point out similarities between other faiths and Christianity it somehow makes Christianity false. In my mind it goes back to creation: if we are created in the Image of God and have within us the innate understanding of what God is and does then it should not suprise us that pagan religions have myths that are similar to Christian truth. As Hebrews says, it is the substance of the shadows. We have what everyone is seeking.
The Moyers show really sent a lot of Christians off the deep end thinking Christianity was just another myth and fable. Padre, what does it mean for Christianity to turn into Hinduism in the absence of the Incarnation? Kerry, love hearing that you are in India. Hope you are well. I passed through Kolkata and spent some time in the seven sister states mostly Assam about 11 years ago. Thank you for your comment asking about what I meant when I said that without the incarnation Christianity becomes Hinduism. I regret having said that.
It was never my intention to speak about Hinduism but rather to discuss the incarnation of Christ in Christianity. It was a stupid thing to say about Hinduism and shows not only my ignorance but a lack of focus on my topic.
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It is not the first time I have used a shotgun when what was called for was a dart. Forgive, Fr. You are commenting using your WordPress. You are commenting using your Google account. You are commenting using your Twitter account. You are commenting using your Facebook account. Notify me of new posts via email. Sign me up! Skip to content. John For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily. Colossians There is the claim by some, maybe you have heard this, that the story of the incarnation is based on older non-Christian tales.